Sandra L. Brown, MA

Sandra L. Brown, MA


Sandra is often referred to as the ‘pioneer’ in the field of pathological love relationships (relationships with partners who have narcissism or psychopathy) and for identifying cognitive dissonance as an aftermath form of existential trauma.

She is the author of 7 books, hundreds of articles on the topic, documentaries, and just completed a research project with Purdue University on the topic.

Sandra provides in-depth training for mental health professionals in The Institute’s Model of Care Approach for Treating the Aftermath of Pathological Love Relationships.

The Quote

Why do individuals who have pathology seek out individuals for relationship?

What Led to the Specialization of Trauma?

Sandra shares an intimate story about what happened to her father and how that inspired her to do the work she now does.

A Crucial Early Mistake

Sandra talks about how one of her errors actually inspired her to get into this field.

Sandra’s Why

Sandra shares how her why has changed and evolved over the years.

Sandra’s advice

Sandra articulates the importance of recognizing the need for self-care when it comes to doing this work.

Sandra’s go-to books

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1 Comment

  1. Rachel Reply

    Thank you so much for this interview, Guy! I have had multiple relationships with narcissists and I’ve been wondering why I keep ending up in them. That question kept me bumping against the “victim blaming” refrain, which I get on some level and on another it was just not helpful. If there really is something about my personality that makes me more vulnerable, I want to know! Enter this interview! Thank you, thank you, thank you! It was so validating!!!

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